I have been looking to submit some shorts in literary journals. 

In an exercise, I posted a few here to get thoughts or feedback.

Now I went to send a story to Cimmaron Review and their restriction states: We do not accept the following:

• Previously published work (includes work published online).

I am supposing this means even in the RR platform???? 

So, is it really detrimental to publish on RR if we have other longer ambitions? Or can we strike the story, remove from published status and submit in the journal?

I'm VERY new to all this and posted thinking it was a constructive avenue to develop material.

If you have insight, I'd appreciate your input, thanks.

A general and big rule of thumb to follow, if you plan to traditionally publish a novel or in this case short stories in journals and zines, don't put them online.

Publisher wants first publishing rights and they do count platform such as RoyalRoad as first publishing rights.

Now there are some publishers who aren't so picky and strict, however that is on a publisher to publisher basis. Some will publish a short story that has been published else where after a few months to a year. It's really up to their submission rules.

The only truly way you can get away with this if you publish your stories on a closed platform. Something that you would need an account to get into to read and won't show up on a Google search. I'm thinking mostly on the line of critique communities because those are all closed and can only be viewed with an account. That's probably about the only way you can do such a thing.

You can always just remove the story from RR when you’re ready to publish them.

According to them, the only thing allowing them to survive is the exclusivity. If you want to publish your manuscript, take down your RR uploads. It's a not a loss, you'll swap a marketing tool for another.

Space Wrote: According to them, the only thing allowing them to survive is the exclusivity. If you want to publish your manuscript, take down your RR uploads. It's a not a loss, you'll swap a marketing tool for another.

Don't let them take advantage of you. Submit first. If they want it, THEN take it down. Screw them.

Thank you all. 

So easy as dropping my stories from RR. If that's the case, then this veil of a rule is pretty dern thin by the Journals. Publish a dozen times by permitting forums that allow multiple publication, yet pull them to submit to the one?

Seems a feeble concept of "exclusivity". :) 

And I missed deadline - turns out it was May 31st! 

Onto the next. At least I understand simply dropping them from the platform is all that's needed. 

LambentTyto Wrote:

Space Wrote: According to them, the only thing allowing them to survive is the exclusivity. If you want to publish your manuscript, take down your RR uploads. It's a not a loss, you'll swap a marketing tool for another.

Don't let them take advantage of you. Submit first. If they want it, THEN take it down. Screw them.

Yea, more of that indentured thing. It's the rules of rules sort of thing.

But honestly, my stuff is lightly used here on RR. I'm the odd-fitting piece here. So I am considering. 

Then further, the gaslighting persists. Another dweeb pummels my shorts with a 0.5. And a person might not like one of the stories, but surely they are not all 0.5. I've been a sitting duck for potshots because of my audacity to promote my "unusual stuff". (stories about real people, lives, sufferings, ironic events in a real world setting - that unusual stuff).

These gremlins know the harm it does my platform of different work. Adults they pretend to be. 

All the serious feedback and review stuff is favorable, but not plentiful because my readership is light. Then 0.5 and the next thing you read on forum:

"Is it worth reading stories of 3 star or less?" A reasonable question under normal circumstances, right? 

And it is that easy to marginalize a different writer here. Unfortunate. 




I wish it were different here. Most of the folk are pretty helpful to VERY. Then I could also share all the names I've been called so far.

On a site that is supposed to be writers/authors/artists. In support of one another. Unless you're different.