What's Wrong With Smut?
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As I've been here for a few, I see a strange stigma around smut. I've been writing it for a few months now, and I had plenty of fun doing that, especially with a friend helping.
Well, you say it has no substance. False, the substance is the intimate experiences the two parties share. The subplots are the things the couple go through, from pain to pleasure.
You say that it's just a reason to indulge in a fetish. Sorry to say, but we as humans have things we're into. To me I find it sad to shame a author to expressing themselves through words, real shame. Kinks exist in damn near all genres, just a little bit more hidden.
You say that it's formulaic. All genres have a formula to it, it's what you do to that formula.
I love to express myself in many ways. Getting my thoughts on paper. Highly detailed sex is just one of them. Don't be a prude.
Well, you say it has no substance. False, the substance is the intimate experiences the two parties share. The subplots are the things the couple go through, from pain to pleasure.
You say that it's just a reason to indulge in a fetish. Sorry to say, but we as humans have things we're into. To me I find it sad to shame a author to expressing themselves through words, real shame. Kinks exist in damn near all genres, just a little bit more hidden.
You say that it's formulaic. All genres have a formula to it, it's what you do to that formula.
I love to express myself in many ways. Getting my thoughts on paper. Highly detailed sex is just one of them. Don't be a prude.
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#2Other Wrote: As I've been here for a few, I see a strange stigma around smut. I've been writing it for a few months now, and I had plenty of fun doing that, especially with a friend helping.I don't write smut, but I have a pretty darn spicy scene in a space opera I'm currently writing. The XO officer is having an affair with one of the Royal Knights aboard the ship. And the thing is, they're in the middle of a big battle over a planet. It's going to start getting in the way. Trust me.
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#3Other Wrote: As I've been here for a few, I see a strange stigma around smut. I've been writing it for a few months now, and I had plenty of fun doing that, especially with a friend helping.If the general audience on a site doesn't want it, they don't want it. There's nothing wrong with liking things, but there's also nothing wrong with disliking things.
Well, you say it has no substance. False, the substance is the intimate experiences the two parties share. The subplots are the things the couple go through, from pain to pleasure.
People don't post pure smut here that often. People don't come here looking for it either.
It's like saying pornography should be allowed on YouTube, there is a place for everything, but that doesn't mean that place is everywhere.
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Well, everyone have a very specific taste on smut.
Not that the audiences on RR hate smut, but RRsimply isn't the platform for smut. If i want smut, i won't be here. There are lots of better sites for the right kind of smutty stuff.
Then came to another question, is novel and texts the right medium to deliver smutty topic? Compare to all those videos and visuals available, reading text perhaps is consider niche to the size of audiences.
Thus if you want to write smut. You need to target those who read smut. A paper i read about the majority smut readers are female. Thus you can see 50 shades and twilight doing pretty well. And BL smut novels are selling like hot cake.
If you target on male smut audiences, it could be very limited. I'm not sure about which should be the best platform, but SH should have enough audiences for your work. Also Honeyfeed.
Not that the audiences on RR hate smut, but RRsimply isn't the platform for smut. If i want smut, i won't be here. There are lots of better sites for the right kind of smutty stuff.
Then came to another question, is novel and texts the right medium to deliver smutty topic? Compare to all those videos and visuals available, reading text perhaps is consider niche to the size of audiences.
Thus if you want to write smut. You need to target those who read smut. A paper i read about the majority smut readers are female. Thus you can see 50 shades and twilight doing pretty well. And BL smut novels are selling like hot cake.
If you target on male smut audiences, it could be very limited. I'm not sure about which should be the best platform, but SH should have enough audiences for your work. Also Honeyfeed.
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Some very successful stories that came from this site are quite lewd. "Everybody Likes Big Chests", for example. My own novel has a few pretty lewd scenes. Nothing wrong with that. From what I observe, however, it should be garnish though, not the main course.
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#6MarikoRawralton Wrote: If the general audience on a site doesn't want it, they don't want it. There's nothing wrong with liking things, but there's also nothing wrong with disliking things.
Doesn't really answer my question. I asked why. Like barring the rules I was asking what's with the stigma, because I see regardless of rules some people here dislike it.
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#7Shomin Wrote: Well, everyone have a very specific taste on smut.
Not that the audiences on RR hate smut, but RRsimply isn't the platform for smut. If i want smut, i won't be here. There are lots of better sites for the right kind of smutty stuff.
Yeah I wasn't planning on posting it here, lol. Just an inquiry and a hot take I had. I was interested in the response.
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So, this got me looking for more appropriate places for my work. I have no idea where to go nor what to look for, so I started with free novel hosting sites. I find flipHTML5.com to learn there are now animated eBooks. Ha. I was about to rant the other day, asking what next, animated books?
I'm still at a loss for hosting solutions... Animated eBooks. Wow, I guess the written words are becoming meaningless and our imaginations, gone.
I'm still at a loss for hosting solutions... Animated eBooks. Wow, I guess the written words are becoming meaningless and our imaginations, gone.
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#9Other Wrote: As I've been here for a few, I see a strange stigma around smut. I've been writing it for a few months now, and I had plenty of fun doing that, especially with a friend helping.I don't understand what you're talking about at all. There is no strange stigma concerning smut here. I'll use an analogy that should be fairly easy to understand. If you're in a restroom you can whip your penis out and start peeing in a toilet without anyone being concerned with it. Now if you go to a public park, whip it out and start peeing, people are going to be pretty up in arms about it. That doesn't mean there's a stigma concerning whipping it out and peeing. It means there's an appropriate time and place for things.
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Why is there a stigma for my fantasy nonsexual story in Literotica? I made my slice of life story on that site months ago and no one is reading it! I barely have 100 views. Are people on that site all whores and sex addicts?! I love expressing myself, and showing cutesy GP rating moments is just one of them. Don't be a bunch of lechers, Literotica!
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#11Ralen Wrote: If you're in a restroom you can whip your penis out and start peeing in a toilet without anyone being concerned with it. Now if you go to a public park, whip it out and start peeing, people are going to be pretty up in arms about it. That doesn't mean there's a stigma concerning whipping it out and peeing. It means there's an appropriate time and place for things.
1. false equivalence. You're comparing public indecency to a contained story that's not as invasive as your comparison.
2. I have personally seen stigma. I am not you, and you are not me. We have seen different things here, lol.
3. I understand that there is a time and a place, as I said I won't post any of that on my personal account on this site. I mean that I've seen just general distaste of the genre, outside of this bubble.
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To be fair, if you wrote an essay on the profitably husbandry of ducks in the northern hemisphere, I think you'd get the same result. People come here for certain things. And these things are ducks. Sorry... I forgot where I was going with this post...
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#13Urikson Wrote: To be fair, if you wrote an essay on the profitably husbandry of ducks in the northern hemisphere, I think you'd get the same result. People come here for certain things. And these things are ducks. Sorry... I forgot where I was going with this post...
Fair point. I retire my argument you win the championship
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Not consenting to reading about your fantasies is not being a prude, my guy. There's nothing wrong with smut. But - time and place. There's sites that are all about smut but this simply isn't one of them.
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Turning this into a smutty site has ad-revenue repercussions, and is an existential question for Royalroad. If they get flagged as a "pornsite", no ad houses will want them, or they will inly get served porn-ads (You won't last 13 seconds! Click here!).
This would be a catastrophe. So, the rules got adjusted to preserve the site. And when the rules are against smut, over the years there will be little smut readers and authors left. Hence the stigma, and a feeling of "no, smut doesn't belong here".
Also, please don't insult us, if "prude" is meant to be an insult.
This would be a catastrophe. So, the rules got adjusted to preserve the site. And when the rules are against smut, over the years there will be little smut readers and authors left. Hence the stigma, and a feeling of "no, smut doesn't belong here".
Also, please don't insult us, if "prude" is meant to be an insult.
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It's too f'kin sexy if there was a lot of smut here I'd never get any work done.
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The nature of sex is to enjoy it while it's happening and to be repulsed and filled with self-loathing when you're finished.
What? I went to a catholic school.
What? I went to a catholic school.
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#18World Wrote: It's too f'kin sexy if there was a lot of smut here I'd never get any work done.Best answer by far.
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No smut on RR? really? Avctually I've read couple of smuts and borderline smuts here.
Their titles are not obvious though.
Their titles are not obvious though.
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#20Shomin Wrote: No smut on RR? really? Avctually I've read couple of smuts and borderline smuts here.I think a lot of people get confused. Graphic sexual depictions are allowed, (barring some conditions) the story itself cannot be wholly about sexual content here on RR. At least, that's what I remember?
Their titles are not obvious though.