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#141KestrelC2 Wrote:?????? I don't think homie was saying the "Way" to being successful is writing Bigfoot erotica lol.mneue Wrote: By this same token, there was a lady about 5-10 years back who cleared six figures writing Big Foot erotica because she happened to get enough early audience capture to bubble out and reach everyone who'd always wanted to read Big Foot erotica. I know erotica is a big seller, but if I had to guess, I'd say that reading about Big Foot as he reams with a bunch of campers isn't high on people's bucket-list. But she still found her audience, and no doubt laughed all the way to the bank when she was done.
If you're ok with writing big foot erotica you can laugh your way to the bank all you want. Good for you. Everyone else will be laughing too, and it'll be a good time.
However, going around telling people that is the "way" to do it, much less using derogatory remarks discouraging them from more creative and intelligent means, is just being immature and arrogant. Which OP proved they are anyways.
I know that's likely not what your saying but your honestly coming across as needlessly aggressive. Go watch a movie you like, or at least put some ice on that hot head.
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#142TheFirstDefier Wrote: The correct answer is 1,500 to 2,500 for 5-7 times a week.Sorry if I missed it anywhere in this long thread, but has there been more clarification on how 5-7 times a week works? For perspective, I'm not currently trying to run my writing like a business, I'm doing it for fun, so I know I can basically just do whatever I want. But, generally speaking, are there any good alternatives to picking days of the week to be release days (e.g., release a chapter on MTWHF, no release Sat/Sun)?
For my current fiction, I've been releasing every other day since Writathon ended, but perhaps that's not recommended since it changes the days of the week when releases occur each week. What about release two days in a row, then skip a day, then repeat? Any other ideas that aren't day-of-the-week focused that could work?
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#143James Wrote:TheFirstDefier Wrote: The correct answer is 1,500 to 2,500 for 5-7 times a week.Sorry if I missed it anywhere in this long thread, but has there been more clarification on how 5-7 times a week works? For perspective, I'm not currently trying to run my writing like a business, I'm doing it for fun, so I know I can basically just do whatever I want. But, generally speaking, are there any good alternatives to picking days of the week to be release days (e.g., release a chapter on MTWHF, no release Sat/Sun)?
For my current fiction, I've been releasing every other day since Writathon ended, but perhaps that's not recommended since it changes the days of the week when releases occur each week. What about release two days in a row, then skip a day, then repeat? Any other ideas that aren't day-of-the-week focused that could work?
Just be consistent. Delve is released every Sunday, so every Sunday I read delve. It's not rocket surgery.
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#144Weavervale Wrote:You wouldn't be turned off if something was released every other day? You'd have to pay attention to which day it was last released and basically calculate the next release date.James Wrote:TheFirstDefier Wrote: The correct answer is 1,500 to 2,500 for 5-7 times a week.Sorry if I missed it anywhere in this long thread, but has there been more clarification on how 5-7 times a week works? For perspective, I'm not currently trying to run my writing like a business, I'm doing it for fun, so I know I can basically just do whatever I want. But, generally speaking, are there any good alternatives to picking days of the week to be release days (e.g., release a chapter on MTWHF, no release Sat/Sun)?
For my current fiction, I've been releasing every other day since Writathon ended, but perhaps that's not recommended since it changes the days of the week when releases occur each week. What about release two days in a row, then skip a day, then repeat? Any other ideas that aren't day-of-the-week focused that could work?
Just be consistent. Delve is released every Sunday, so every Sunday I read delve. It's not rocket surgery.
I haven't gotten any complaints yet but it just seems like a risky thing to do with my next project...
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#145James Wrote:Just put the time you'll release the next chapter (Like 9PM or whatever.) in your author notes or story description. As long as you have a back log (Which you should if you want to be consistent.) then you can always know when you can post a new chapter.Weavervale Wrote:You wouldn't be turned off if something was released every other day? You'd have to pay attention to which day it was last released and basically calculate the next release date.James Wrote:TheFirstDefier Wrote: The correct answer is 1,500 to 2,500 for 5-7 times a week.Sorry if I missed it anywhere in this long thread, but has there been more clarification on how 5-7 times a week works? For perspective, I'm not currently trying to run my writing like a business, I'm doing it for fun, so I know I can basically just do whatever I want. But, generally speaking, are there any good alternatives to picking days of the week to be release days (e.g., release a chapter on MTWHF, no release Sat/Sun)?
For my current fiction, I've been releasing every other day since Writathon ended, but perhaps that's not recommended since it changes the days of the week when releases occur each week. What about release two days in a row, then skip a day, then repeat? Any other ideas that aren't day-of-the-week focused that could work?
Just be consistent. Delve is released every Sunday, so every Sunday I read delve. It's not rocket surgery.
I haven't gotten any complaints yet but it just seems like a risky thing to do with my next project...
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#146Mx.Writer Wrote:I read your post three times and I just don't think we're talking about the same thing. What I'm trying to ask is, if you are a reader, and you see a fiction is released every other day, does that bother you, as a reader? If I release every other day at 9PM, then one random day at 8:59 PM you'll be thinking "oh, doesn't that story come out in one minute? Oh wait, did it last come out yesterday or the day before? Let me go check, I can't remember." That's what I'm worried about. If conventional wisdom says that is definitely not a problem which hurts readership, then okay.James Wrote:Just put the time you'll release the next chapter (Like 9PM or whatever.) in your author notes or story description. As long as you have a back log (Which you should if you want to be consistent.) then you can always know when you can post a new chapter.Weavervale Wrote:You wouldn't be turned off if something was released every other day? You'd have to pay attention to which day it was last released and basically calculate the next release date.James Wrote:TheFirstDefier Wrote: The correct answer is 1,500 to 2,500 for 5-7 times a week.Sorry if I missed it anywhere in this long thread, but has there been more clarification on how 5-7 times a week works? For perspective, I'm not currently trying to run my writing like a business, I'm doing it for fun, so I know I can basically just do whatever I want. But, generally speaking, are there any good alternatives to picking days of the week to be release days (e.g., release a chapter on MTWHF, no release Sat/Sun)?
For my current fiction, I've been releasing every other day since Writathon ended, but perhaps that's not recommended since it changes the days of the week when releases occur each week. What about release two days in a row, then skip a day, then repeat? Any other ideas that aren't day-of-the-week focused that could work?
Just be consistent. Delve is released every Sunday, so every Sunday I read delve. It's not rocket surgery.
I haven't gotten any complaints yet but it just seems like a risky thing to do with my next project...
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#147James Wrote:Bro readers aren't dumb. If you're schedule is monday, wednesday, friday then sunday (one day with something and one day with nothing like you said) then you just put Monday/Wednesday/Friday/Sunday. (Or maybe you just make the weekends off so you don't need to make another chapter by monday or whatever.)Mx.Writer Wrote:I read your post three times and I just don't think we're talking about the same thing. What I'm trying to ask is, if you are a reader, and you see a fiction is released every other day, does that bother you, as a reader? If I release every other day at 9PM, then one random day at 8:59 PM you'll be thinking "oh, doesn't that story come out in one minute? Oh wait, did it last come out yesterday or the day before? Let me go check, I can't remember." That's what I'm worried about. If conventional wisdom says that is definitely not a problem which hurts readership, then okay.James Wrote:Just put the time you'll release the next chapter (Like 9PM or whatever.) in your author notes or story description. As long as you have a back log (Which you should if you want to be consistent.) then you can always know when you can post a new chapter.Weavervale Wrote:You wouldn't be turned off if something was released every other day? You'd have to pay attention to which day it was last released and basically calculate the next release date.James Wrote:TheFirstDefier Wrote: The correct answer is 1,500 to 2,500 for 5-7 times a week.Sorry if I missed it anywhere in this long thread, but has there been more clarification on how 5-7 times a week works? For perspective, I'm not currently trying to run my writing like a business, I'm doing it for fun, so I know I can basically just do whatever I want. But, generally speaking, are there any good alternatives to picking days of the week to be release days (e.g., release a chapter on MTWHF, no release Sat/Sun)?
For my current fiction, I've been releasing every other day since Writathon ended, but perhaps that's not recommended since it changes the days of the week when releases occur each week. What about release two days in a row, then skip a day, then repeat? Any other ideas that aren't day-of-the-week focused that could work?
Just be consistent. Delve is released every Sunday, so every Sunday I read delve. It's not rocket surgery.
I haven't gotten any complaints yet but it just seems like a risky thing to do with my next project...
Or you just
On wednesday 9PM I'll post the next chapter.
Either way they can keep up just fine.
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Amazing that we're still talking about different things... that answers my question lol.
I'll just do what you said and stick to firm days of the week rather than 'every other day'.
I'll just do what you said and stick to firm days of the week rather than 'every other day'.
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#149James Wrote: Amazing that we're still talking about different things... that answers my question lol.Lol sure dude.
I'll just do what you said and stick to firm days of the week rather than 'every other day'.
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#150KestrelC2 Wrote:C'mon, lets stop this. OP went out of his way to make something that is actually very helpful to a lot of people, compiling potentially career- and lifechanging advice for the people it's aimed at.mneue Wrote: By this same token, there was a lady about 5-10 years back who cleared six figures writing Big Foot erotica because she happened to get enough early audience capture to bubble out and reach everyone who'd always wanted to read Big Foot erotica. I know erotica is a big seller, but if I had to guess, I'd say that reading about Big Foot as he reams with a bunch of campers isn't high on people's bucket-list. But she still found her audience, and no doubt laughed all the way to the bank when she was done.
If you're ok with writing big foot erotica you can laugh your way to the bank all you want. Good for you. Everyone else will be laughing too, and it'll be a good time.
However, going around telling people that is the "way" to do it, much less using derogatory remarks discouraging them from more creative and intelligent means, is just being immature and arrogant. Which OP proved they are anyways.
It might not be aimed at you, but that's all that's 'wrong' with it. There's seven pages of comments of people who liked the guide, so it's obviously doing something right.
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#151Haust Wrote:To be fair, it would be pretty embarrassing if the professional writer could not write a decent blog post. But I agree that Big-foot erotica is cool and they shouldn't hate on it.KestrelC2 Wrote:C'mon, lets stop this. OP went out of his way to make something that is actually very helpful to a lot of people, compiling potentially career- and lifechanging advice for the people it's aimed at.mneue Wrote: By this same token, there was a lady about 5-10 years back who cleared six figures writing Big Foot erotica because she happened to get enough early audience capture to bubble out and reach everyone who'd always wanted to read Big Foot erotica. I know erotica is a big seller, but if I had to guess, I'd say that reading about Big Foot as he reams with a bunch of campers isn't high on people's bucket-list. But she still found her audience, and no doubt laughed all the way to the bank when she was done.
If you're ok with writing big foot erotica you can laugh your way to the bank all you want. Good for you. Everyone else will be laughing too, and it'll be a good time.
However, going around telling people that is the "way" to do it, much less using derogatory remarks discouraging them from more creative and intelligent means, is just being immature and arrogant. Which OP proved they are anyways.
It might not be aimed at you, but that's all that's 'wrong' with it. There's seven pages of comments of people who liked the guide, so it's obviously doing something right.
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#152KestrelC2 Wrote:mneue Wrote: By this same token, there was a lady about 5-10 years back who cleared six figures writing Big Foot erotica because she happened to get enough early audience capture to bubble out and reach everyone who'd always wanted to read Big Foot erotica. I know erotica is a big seller, but if I had to guess, I'd say that reading about Big Foot as he reams with a bunch of campers isn't high on people's bucket-list. But she still found her audience, and no doubt laughed all the way to the bank when she was done.
If you're ok with writing big foot erotica you can laugh your way to the bank all you want. Good for you. Everyone else will be laughing too, and it'll be a good time.
However, going around telling people that is the "way" to do it, much less using derogatory remarks discouraging them from more creative and intelligent means, is just being immature and arrogant. Which OP proved they are anyways.
Bruh what is your problem? Leave the thread if you're so personally offended, jesus. 7 pages deep and this dude is still throwing a tantrum
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#153James Wrote: You wouldn't be turned off if something was released every other day? You'd have to pay attention to which day it was last released and basically calculate the next release date.
I haven't gotten any complaints yet but it just seems like a risky thing to do with my next project...
I think i might understand your question..?
As a reader i think I wouldnt exactly mind an every other day release as long as it was staying consistent like many have said, because I would eventually get into a habit of checking on those days for my every-other-daily juice.
That said personally I prefer binging and getting things in large chunks so I would rather have a weekend release that I think you mentioned Sat, Sun, over every other day mon, wed, fri.
I also think it that if you are posting at least 2k-3k word chapters on these two days it gives you enough girth on your chapters to have the longer waiting period during the week for the reader as it builds up a desire for the chapters on the weekend.
I hope that helped.

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#155Gehenna Wrote: This is the guide of Amazon Jeff Bezos.Lol Amazon Jeff Bezos, that's funny.
Check The Wandering Inn by Pirateaba ; 1 chapter ahead on Patreon.
Beware Of Chicken by Casualfarmer ; 2 chapters ahead on Patreon.
Compare the approach of these 2 and Defier.
Monetize your work : YES
Use agressive strategy to backlog/cliff, encourage ppl to copy tropes ”until they make it” : NO
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Though uh, I don't think you should use Pirateaba as a example. That "1 chapter" of theirs can be over 20,000 words. If this guy is Jeff Bezos then Pirateaba is webserials equivalent of Apple. A bunch of products/new versions of the same thing.
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#157Tanath Wrote: You say not to do rewrites, but most good writing is rewriting. You also emphasise schedule, so if there's a conflict there you should probably aim to increase your speed.I believe he is talking about rewriting an entire book that is a failure.
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#158
Absolute gold. This is a masterclass from someone who has achieved the pinnacle of success in this field. I will be attempting to follow it to the letter.



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#159
Thank you so much for this amazing write-up. I've never done any writing before let alone anything to do with monetization. This really helped convince me to get things set up and start posting my content.
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