Re: Multiple 1st person perspective switching is a literary crime. Am I wrong?
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As a man who usually writes in the first person and has attempted multiple perspectives, it's really not difficult. Honestly, I like first person a lot more because I do a lot of action spots and I want to get in the character's head when they're performing the action. plus dialogue is a lot better in the first person in my opinion. Third-person is cool, but done wrong can be incredibly boring and impersonal. First-person will always ensure that you will have the personal feelings of your protagonist.
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I think this is one of those things where you can do it correctly, but it requires a certain amount of skill and expertise, so people warn new authors against attempting it and are quick to judge any webnovels that try to use it. I tend to prefer third person prose as a general rule anyway.
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Every single perspective switch is a crime.
Under all circumstances.
Some are less egregious than others, and can be made up via community service. (Other aspects of the writing pay off the cost of the switching)
But they always have a cost, you are taking the reader away from a character and story they are, ideally, invested in and asking them to care about something else.
Pay them back for that.
Every time you do it.
If they don't care that you are taking them away from a character or situation, then you have real problems.
Under all circumstances.
Some are less egregious than others, and can be made up via community service. (Other aspects of the writing pay off the cost of the switching)
But they always have a cost, you are taking the reader away from a character and story they are, ideally, invested in and asking them to care about something else.
Pay them back for that.
Every time you do it.
If they don't care that you are taking them away from a character or situation, then you have real problems.
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#25tempast404 Wrote: Every single perspective switch is a crime.This, exactly this. It is really, really irritating when I have to wait for a while (while reading boring, unimportant things) just to get back to where we left off. Even if the "interlude" is good and exciting, the initial feeling is that of disappointment or even very slight anger, since your immersion basically gets "reset", and you have to start from zero again, my mental image of the story that I was holding onto got shattered and reset
Under all circumstances.
Some are less egregious than others, and can be made up via community service. (Other aspects of the writing pay off the cost of the switching)
But they always have a cost, you are taking the reader away from a character and story they are, ideally, invested in and asking them to care about something else.
Pay them back for that.
Every time you do it.
If they don't care that you are taking them away from a character or situation, then you have real problems.
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Re: Multiple 1st person perspective switching is a literary crime. Am I wrong?
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Thanks all for responding to this. I may have been a little harsh labeling it a crime. I noticed a bunch of folks say, just put who's perspective it is on top of the chapter and it's all good. Most people do this on RR, so my issue isn't that I don't know when it is another perspective. The problem is everyone usually feels like the same person.
The perspective switches but even though you switch into someone else's skull it is essentially the same. My feeling is that if you switch using 1st you have to change your writing to reflect a totally new personality. How the character sounds in their head, perceives and reacts to things, the very thought processes have to be different. That is where I think the failure happens. If you change 1st person perspective from Bill to Janet, and the only way I can tell is you put the name at the top of the chapter, you failed.
Don't get me wrong, I think it's really really hard to do this well, and I agree that you can only succeed by trying. So to all the authors attempting to learn, have at it. A good example of doing it right is Vigor Mortis, which for the most part does an amazing job. Each character is so distinct you know who it is instantly. I just get a little sad when I start reading a story that is really good, and the author starts shifting and doesn't succeed in pulling it off well. It's like finger painting on top of a Rembrandt.
The perspective switches but even though you switch into someone else's skull it is essentially the same. My feeling is that if you switch using 1st you have to change your writing to reflect a totally new personality. How the character sounds in their head, perceives and reacts to things, the very thought processes have to be different. That is where I think the failure happens. If you change 1st person perspective from Bill to Janet, and the only way I can tell is you put the name at the top of the chapter, you failed.
Don't get me wrong, I think it's really really hard to do this well, and I agree that you can only succeed by trying. So to all the authors attempting to learn, have at it. A good example of doing it right is Vigor Mortis, which for the most part does an amazing job. Each character is so distinct you know who it is instantly. I just get a little sad when I start reading a story that is really good, and the author starts shifting and doesn't succeed in pulling it off well. It's like finger painting on top of a Rembrandt.
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You point out a good point. Personally, I find the same problem in third person pov since everything seems bland sometimes.
Anyway, back to the point. Currently, I want to write something using multipov and in my first draft, only the dumbest of my characters sound very differently from my MC. However, it seems to work when I partition my soul between my character. Trying to create one doesn't seem to work. Since basically every character is nearly self-inserted, why not go straight with it. So my MC is 50% of myself, my second character 20% and the others share the rest. Of course, it needs to be totally independent to give the illusion of different characters.
I hope it will work in the end, but I will only see it in a few months when I post my stories.
Anyway, back to the point. Currently, I want to write something using multipov and in my first draft, only the dumbest of my characters sound very differently from my MC. However, it seems to work when I partition my soul between my character. Trying to create one doesn't seem to work. Since basically every character is nearly self-inserted, why not go straight with it. So my MC is 50% of myself, my second character 20% and the others share the rest. Of course, it needs to be totally independent to give the illusion of different characters.
I hope it will work in the end, but I will only see it in a few months when I post my stories.
Re: Multiple 1st person perspective switching is a literary crime. Am I wrong?
#29shazzan Wrote: Thanks all for responding to this. I may have been a little harsh labeling it a crime. I noticed a bunch of folks say, just put who's perspective it is on top of the chapter and it's all good. Most people do this on RR, so my issue isn't that I don't know when it is another perspective. The problem is everyone usually feels like the same person.
The perspective switches but even though you switch into someone else's skull it is essentially the same. My feeling is that if you switch using 1st you have to change your writing to reflect a totally new personality. How the character sounds in their head, perceives and reacts to things, the very thought processes have to be different. That is where I think the failure happens. If you change 1st person perspective from Bill to Janet, and the only way I can tell is you put the name at the top of the chapter, you failed.
Don't get me wrong, I think it's really really hard to do this well, and I agree that you can only succeed by trying. So to all the authors attempting to learn, have at it. A good example of doing it right is Vigor Mortis, which for the most part does an amazing job. Each character is so distinct you know who it is instantly. I just get a little sad when I start reading a story that is really good, and the author starts shifting and doesn't succeed in pulling it off well. It's like finger painting on top of a Rembrandt.

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#30Yes, you are wrong.
shazzan Wrote: So I've read enough works on this site to know what I like, what I don't like, and what I despise.
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Off the top of my head, Bram Strokers Dracula is multiple first-person POV. Try reading that.