Re: Does anyone else have an authors personality and engagement effect their experience?

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Not_A_Hat Wrote: I'm sometimes bothered by how an author responds to comments, but that usually just makes me stop reading or posting comments. Which does lower my enjoyment of the fiction a bit, but usually not enough for me to drop it just for that.

What really does bug me is when an author writes a chapter, and then writes more about the chapter in an authors notes, like explanations of what's really going on or why x did y, stuff like that. It's just... really bad storytelling. If it's important, it should be in the chapter; if it's not important, why did they think it needed explanation? I rapidly lose trust in their storytelling skill, and then usually lose interest in the story.

I write explanations of chinese and xianxia terms in my novels authors notes, is that also no no, or is it justified, in your opinion? 

Re: Does anyone else have an authors personality and engagement effect their experience?

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Sake Wrote: I write explanations of chinese and xianxia terms in my novels authors notes, is that also no no, or is it justified, in your opinion?
I support that! Different languages or technical terms get a bit of a pass, in my opinion, because sometimes using a different word just won't do.

I'm mostly talking about plot points and character intentions. Like a character acts angry, and then the author is like 'this is why the character is acting angry.' If why they're angry is important, put it in the story! If it's not important, then I don't care enough to read about it in the authors note!


Though honestly, I'd also say that if you can explain... or explain might not be the right term. If you can use the words in such a way that a separate definition isn't necessary, that's better, but that's also hard and maybe not worth the effort. Like, if I have two astronomers talking about an eclipse, they can use terms like 'draconic month', 'exeligmos' and 'syzygy', but I'm definitely not going to have them just casually explain the words to each other. I probably wouldn't make something like that plot-important, because otherwise the readers will get lost partway through the chapter, but yeah.

But people can go a bit overboard with this, too. I've seen translations of manga that use the word 'nakama', and then have a definition, when the English word 'comrade' is a perfectly serviceable translation, and would cause much less confusion. Using obscure words for their own sake is it's own form of bad writing.

Brb, off to read your novels. :P

Re: Does anyone else have an authors personality and engagement effect their experience?

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Not_A_Hat Wrote: I'm sometimes bothered by how an author responds to comments, but that usually just makes me stop reading or posting comments. Which does lower my enjoyment of the fiction a bit, but usually not enough for me to drop it just for that.

What really does bug me is when an author writes a chapter, and then writes more about the chapter in an authors notes, like explanations of what's really going on or why x did y, stuff like that. It's just... really bad storytelling. If it's important, it should be in the chapter; if it's not important, why did they think it needed explanation? I rapidly lose trust in their storytelling skill, and then usually lose interest in the story.
Yeah, I agree here. What is important should be within the story itself. The only time I used the author’s notes, is to give a fun fact. Usually about what changes between rewrites, or how things were originally before I began reconstructing. There is however one author’s notes, way at the end of the book, which explains why I chose the specific name of my book. 

My first book specifically, at the end of the chapter(not all chapters), on a new part. There is a bit of an explanation on the lore, all of this is explained as the story goes along, and makes more sense as readers goes through each book. These are small additions more for a fun read, and not a necessity. Since well, all of this is expanded on, and made clear by the end of the series. So, consider those optional fragments that you can skip over with no loss whatsoever.

Re: Does anyone else have an authors personality and engagement effect their experience?

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Edge Wrote:
Not_A_Hat Wrote: I'm sometimes bothered by how an author responds to comments, but that usually just makes me stop reading or posting comments. Which does lower my enjoyment of the fiction a bit, but usually not enough for me to drop it just for that.

What really does bug me is when an author writes a chapter, and then writes more about the chapter in an authors notes, like explanations of what's really going on or why x did y, stuff like that. It's just... really bad storytelling. If it's important, it should be in the chapter; if it's not important, why did they think it needed explanation? I rapidly lose trust in their storytelling skill, and then usually lose interest in the story.
Yeah, I agree here. What is important should be within the story itself. The only time I used the author’s notes, is to give a fun fact. Usually about what changes between rewrites, or how things were originally before I began reconstructing. There is however one author’s notes, way at the end of the book, which explains why I chose the specific name of my book. 

My first book specifically, at the end of the chapter(not all chapters), on a new part. There is a bit of an explanation on the lore, all of this is explained as the story goes along, and makes more sense as readers goes through each book. These are small additions more for a fun read, and not a necessity. Since well, all of this is expanded on, and made clear by the end of the series. So, consider those optional fragments that you can skip over with no loss whatsoever.

I very much enjoy books with a glossary of terms of sorts, as well as all kind of additional stuff pictured on images like maps or weapon schematics, that might not be easy to explain in text, or might not even be nessecery for understanding of the plot, but still enhance the worldbuilding and the lore immenensly for people who care to delve into it.

Kinda like in video games some lore bits are given on loading screens. 

Re: Does anyone else have an authors personality and engagement effect their experience?

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Sake Wrote: I very much enjoy books with a glossary of terms of sorts, as well as all kind of additional stuff pictured on images like maps or weapon schematics, that might not be easy to explain in text, or might not even be nessecery for understanding of the plot, but still enhance the worldbuilding and the lore immenensly for people who care to delve into it.

Kinda like in video games some lore bits are given on loading screens.
There is one reason why I have not drawn even a single map. Why? Because it will be ridiculously large. I would have to make about eight or nine maps for my trilogy, and that is too much of a pain in the ass. 😐

Instead, I settled on illustrations. Which, after I finish my rewrites, I will have time in making more. Have a few out currently. Problem with video-game loading screen, someone of them go by too fast, so you can’t read the lore. 😂

Re: Does anyone else have an authors personality and engagement effect their experience?

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I write a historical novel so most people don't understand the references I am making. I usually explain that in the authors note or sometimes the MC explains it. If I don't do that, people won't even understand the story. The other day, the MC said something about Malthus's population control theory and I had to explain it in the comments. There are some key words that people won't understand so I explain it in the comments. I personally like authors explaining the references they make in the authors note instead of assuming that the readers will know it or they will search it up. I know from my reading experience, people just don't do that so I usually write some authors notes.

Re: Does anyone else have an authors personality and engagement effect their experience?

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ReiSyzygy Wrote: I personally like authors explaining the references they make in the authors note instead of assuming that the readers will know it or they will search it up. I know from my reading experience, people just don't do that so I usually write some authors notes.
God, I love explaining references in the Author's Note. It's so fun to share knowledge, even the most obscure stuff I can think of.

I had to write a lot of them to explain a lot of the French and Russian phrases I used as titles in my story. That, and I had to explain some of my choices.

I feel so much more comfortable sharing my viewpoint / explaining why I chose a thing. It also feels like I'm closer to the reader.

Re: Does anyone else have an authors personality and engagement effect their experience?

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MarikoRawralton Wrote:
ReiSyzygy Wrote: I personally like authors explaining the references they make in the authors note instead of assuming that the readers will know it or they will search it up. I know from my reading experience, people just don't do that so I usually write some authors notes.
God, I love explaining references in the Author's Note. It's so fun to share knowledge, even the most obscure stuff I can think of.

I had to write a lot of them to explain a lot of the French and Russian phrases I used as titles in my story. That, and I had to explain some of my choices.

I feel so much more comfortable sharing my viewpoint / explaining why I chose a thing. It also feels like I'm closer to the reader.
Depends on the references made. For instance, I made a Yu-gi-oh reference once with an iguana. 😂

That one there is so basic, I think anyone would understand it. Cards, world in danger, you know how to solve the problem. Not with swords or guns, we are doing this in the most irrational way possible. 😂

There was only one thing I had to explain myself, and that was why I chose the name of my trilogy. Since, I can almost guarantee. Nearly no one will figure it out. 

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It can sometimes really get in the way of the story, for me. A prime example of this was the author of the Witcher series, who I had followed for his bitter treatment of the team creating the Witcher games.

I really wanted to enjoy his work. However, after seeing him openly having such short-sighted, arrogant, and pig-headed views about the Witcher Games (As well as anyone who plays games in general) I just couldn't find the energy to do it.

It's a real shame, really. Because we're not perfect, nobody is. I'm sure if I was put under a microscope, there would be something I've said, or done, that would upset someone, somehow. Authors shouldn't need to be bastions of character. Yet I struggle to seperate the artist from the art.

Re: Does anyone else have an authors personality and engagement effect their experience?

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When I was an adolescent I too got extremely chapped when I heard that [insert writer here] was a massive cunt, or [insert writer here] did or said something I disagreed with. 
Like the author with the outrageous political views
Or the author with the chronic drug addiction problem
Or the author that was caught with a massive amount of child pornography

As I got older however, I came to an understanding: It is the tale, not he who tells it. 
And for the most part things have worked out okay. 
I don't care that Stephen King has a different political view from myself, I really just fucking love his stories. 
I really enjoyed Rurouni Kenshin even though Watsuki Nobuhiro was caught with child porn. 
I don't care that Anne Rice was a massive cunt twenty years ago, I really enjoyed reading the Vampire Armand. 

Authors are as many and as varied as fingerprints. Sometimes they do or say things that I don't agree with. But I don't really fucking care that much at all. 

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Nestor1079 Wrote: As I got older however, I came to an understanding: It is the tale, not he who tells it. 
And for the most part things have worked out okay. 
I don't care that Stephen King has a different political view from myself, I really just fucking love his stories. 
I really enjoyed Rurouni Kenshin even though Watsuki Nobuhiro was caught with child porn. 
I don't care that Anne Rice was a massive cunt twenty years ago, I really enjoyed reading the Vampire Armand. 

Authors are as many and as varied as fingerprints. Sometimes they do or say things that I don't agree with. But I don't really fucking care that much at all.


The problem with this point is that these Authors' actions do affect people in the real world. Sometimes it's not just, I disagree with this point. As someone who is Disabled, with a disorder that is heavily stigmatized in the horror genre, I am an affected by Authors who insert their Abelist point of view into their stories. J.K.Rowling writing another story about another creepy sexually perverse trans male character, affects the trans community, as movies and books before affect the trans community. These views have real world impact and to ignore it just because you like the book and continue to support these people who write their views into their story affect the people they either erase or stigmatize. 

To the op's question; 
Translations - I do not support Authors who have views who harm communities already affected by stigma and/or are already erased. And for the Authors who are dead, I attempt to reclaim their work, by giving a new meaning to the ideas they have brought forth. Lovecraft is an example.