Re: Why it is hard to gain feedback at the start?

#2
There are several factors involved I think.

* Imo, it should be easier at the beginning to attract users because a) it's a new fiction, so the story is listed on another 'front page' besides updated fictions. b) sometimes users are looking for new material. <but it's also difficult perhaps because there's only 1, or 2 chapters out, so little content to give feedback on perhaps?>

1) Timing of released chapters. It's really based on luck, and if people wanna click that new, updated chapter on the front page. The key factors to this are title and cover to see if they appeal to users. RR followings typical go after litrpgs, fantasy, reincarnation and cultivation novels. Other stories while maybe well-written typically don't attract big audiences like romcoms, mystery, etc.

2) Some readers might just be waiting for more content. There are also tons of lurkers who just haven't made accounts.

3) Users typically don't bother if what they read is not to their taste. Harsh, but true. OR they'll drop harsh drive-by ratings if they feel up to it(like you wasted their time or something).

On a side note, you could probably make a request for 'feedback' or 'review swaps.' The difference for asking feedback from a reader and author is typically very different though because of conflict of interests lol.

Re: Why it is hard to gain feedback at the start?

#3
The amount of work you put out greatly relates to the amount of feedback you will receive. 

Attention spans are short and everyone is just sort of screaming into the void here, hoping to get noticed. With so many options to choose from, it makes sense that readers will want to sink their teeth into a story that is more developed rather than take a chance on something with only a handful of chapters and no reviews. 

It is kind of a self fulfilling prophecy. Works that get feedback end up on trending. From trending they get more feedback and so on and on and on, so long as the quality is there.  

Re: Why it is hard to gain feedback at the start?

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Thedude3445 Wrote: People are a little comment/review shy for smaller works, but you also have to make sure you're getting readers in the first place. That means a good cover, a good description, and an amazing first chapter. Out of those, the latter is the most important.


Oof, my first chapter is a few months old and I picked up the story only two months ago, there is(probably) a big difference in quality. Well, unlucky me. I'll just keep writing and await for some saintly individual to review then.

Though there are some cases of which I see that people give reviews in the first three or four chapters of the story with just ''Great work, I like the style!'' or ''It is lovable, I wonder where the author will take this to!'' When does such a thing occur other than the case where the story is really amazing, as that kind of stories always bound to have good reviews and lots of comments( I suppose)

Re: Why it is hard to gain feedback at the start?

#8
Raskaro Wrote:
Thedude3445 Wrote: People are a little comment/review shy for smaller works, but you also have to make sure you're getting readers in the first place. That means a good cover, a good description, and an amazing first chapter. Out of those, the latter is the most important.


Oof, my first chapter is a few months old and I picked up the story only two months ago, there is(probably) a big difference in quality. Well, unlucky me. I'll just keep writing and await for some saintly individual to review then.

Though there are some cases of which I see that people give reviews in the first three or four chapters of the story with just ''Great work, I like the style!'' or ''It is lovable, I wonder where the author will take this to!'' When does such a thing occur other than the case where the story is really amazing, as that kind of stories always bound to have good reviews and lots of comments( I suppose)


Honestly, positive/negative feedback that doesn't actually say anything that you can use is pleasant/unpleasant, but useless. 

Re: Why it is hard to gain feedback at the start?

#9
Raskaro Wrote: Oof, my first chapter is a few months old and I picked up the story only two months ago, there is(probably) a big difference in quality. Well, unlucky me. I'll just keep writing and await for some saintly individual to review then.


Gotta make sure the first chapter hooks the reader on for the long haul. If it doesn't, you'll get the people that read everything of a particular genre, but the mildly-curious may not go past the beginning if it's not real good stuff. I usually never recommend rewriting an ongoing story-- gotta finish it first-- but the first chapter is a big deal. If you have time to revise it and feel like it needs it, that may be a good idea.


Seerica Wrote: Honestly, positive/negative feedback that doesn't actually say anything that you can use is pleasant/unpleasant, but useless.



Well, theoretically we're writing full web novels here, and the story should be well out of draft form by the point it's finally published. I know a lot of people publish their first drafts  I haven't received feedback-like reviews on my published work before, but if it were done I'd mostly feel like they were condescending to me. This isn't an excuse for very vague "this is great! / this sucks!" one-line reviews, but I think feedback is better for comments than reviews.

Re: Why it is hard to gain feedback at the start?

#10
Yeah the biggest thing is you are on a website full of writers and reader who are posting their stuff. Everyone has many different ideas and its up to you to somehow stand out from the rest of them and hook them in. Thats not an easy thing to do, especially with some of the talent we have around here, but you just gotta keep the constant and quick updates and get to know the community better, itll come. 

Im in the same boat, im at a mere 500 views for my 6 chapters in 25 days which im happy with haha but stick with it :)