Worth the Candle
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A teenager struggling after the death of his best friend finds himself in a fantasy world - one which seems to be an amalgamation of every Dungeons and Dragons campaign they ever played together. Now he's stuck trying to find the answers to why he's there and what this world is trying to say. The most terrifying answer might be that this world is an expression of the person he was back on Earth.
Note that this work follows a slightly different update schedule than most, posting several chapters at once every month or two in big batches, which helps me maintain quality and not burn out trying to push out words about as fast as I can.
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I really liked this story for the first 40 chapters or so. Then things started grating on me.
- The trope where his companions get random power ups in order to keep relevant.
- The increasing levels of obsession with trying to game the system and the endless discussions about narratives. (far too meta and immersion breaking)
- The MC becomes increasingly sociopathic in trying to manipulate higher levels of loyalty from his companions.
- Mary kept keeping things from the group for 'reasons'.
- The endless whining about his cheat level ability to gain aptitude in basically everything isn't fast enough or good enough.
- The crowning moment of "nope nope nope I'm outskies" is when he meets God and whines about evil and suffering. It's not so much that I mind objecting to suffering per se, since I'm whining about my suffering from reading this story. It's the hypocritical nature of it. He wishes to erase suffering from the world and clone his ex girlfriend while keeping his current one, while also complaining about his budding harem. I'm sorry but if you don't want to hook up with someone, all you have to do is say sorry not interested and move on with your life. Then there's the preoccupation with everything being a Clue or that his piloting skills should come into play and I just find myself thinking. "I don't actually care about any of these characters, I don't care where they end up, so I should just stop reading and put myself out of my misery. "
Spoiler alert, this story is apparently going to be at least 160 chapters and a million words.
In short, this is one of the best written, near perfectly edited stories with characters that will constantly talk about the nature of reality and narratives and will bicker endlessly. As of ch 79, I don't think the story or characters have progressed that far.
I like it, it start off kinda slow, with flashback in between chapters. But it still interesting to read. So, no problem there.
One of the thing that I found interesting is author gave little clue here and there which if you didn't really think about it, it would feel not that important. But will be proven wrong when the pieces start to come together and you can see it have significance for the later part of the story. So there's that.
The MC is not too powerfull even tho he have this game interface to help him get stronger that no one else have.
I don't really know what to say anymore, all is great and I'm having a good time, the style is really interesting, I guess you could say it's a new take on fantasy genre.
Other than that.. it's on the later part of the story that I have complain about. Well, not really, but you just have to hear me out, i guess?¯\_(ツ)_/¯
So, after the story progess more, there so many Drama..
But that's the thing with people, right? People are complicated, or is it feeling that are complicated? Nvm
Even tho I didn't really like it that much with so many drama going around at later chapters. At least it feels more realistic this way, and that's probably rare in this website.
So. Props for author for the great story!
I so much enjoyed my experience reading it.
It's almost like the writer took two genres I dislike the most and than proceeded to make a great story out of it.
For me at least, the main draw of the story has so far been the characters. They are believably flawed in a way that makes them more interesting and the character development has been pretty well done so far. The writer clearly understands how relationships work.
One of the major reasons that I get pulled out of enjoying LitRPG stories is that the stories often focus on the game systems to the detriment of the human story at the core of the narrative. WtC turns that on its head by having the characters acknowledge and focus on the personal impact of the plot, and even engage in some flirtation with the fourth wall when they turn to contemplating the nature of their own narrative.
I truly enjoyed this story so far and hope that it continues to go strong.
Currently at the end of the published story, chapter 221, Targets of Opportunity.
I had read Alexander Wales' stories before. None of this caliber. As he's very obviously in the "capital R" Rationality circle, I think he'll understand when I say: I would be honored to meet the man who is able to contain at the same time (apart from many others) the likes of Bethel, Amarillis and Juniper. Never after HPMOR had I found such protagonists, so full of life, reflection, sensitivity and sheer intellectual power, while still being human in the fullest possible sense of the world. And that's just on the character front, which I understand to be the lowest part (I give 4,5 stars for it), mostly because of LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters making FourLinesAllWaiting (I really missed some characters that are absent for long). Sorry I can't make the TvTropes link work, but you know where to search.
On the story front, I again have never encountered such a detailed worldbuilding. Mentioning Tolkien is mandatory here, but just to say Tolkien is diminished. I could only say, Alexander Wales spends time on staging / worldbuilding in the way that JRR Tolkien spends on fictional languages. But loose threads are few and far between. It's narratvely very satisfactory for arcs to have a beginning and an end, and as much as the author plays with expectations and post-everything, he sticks to the adequate formulas at the adequate times. Meaning, he's just a very, very good writer and narrator, on the level of Scott Alexander. I've spend quite a few sleepless nights reading obsessively this fiction, not being able to unglue myself from the screen. And now that I'm "finished", I just crave for more.
I'm not sure what RoyalRoad means with "Style", but supposing it means "ellegant, decorative", what can I say? It's both the best riff I've ever read on fantasy themes and narratives (and drinking from the most sources, probably), and the best written. A real-world editor wouldn't have let anyone except an acclaimed writer (say, George R.R. Martin) to run this long. But the fiction needs it, and Wales does it better than Martin.
On grammar and language, because this is an advanced review, I can only say: I'm spanish/english bilingual, with deep culture. I don't need a dictionary to read most general or technical works, just very specific old terms when reading Shakespeare, let's say. Alexander Wales forces me to check a word about every few chapters, which is frankly ridiculous for me. Best of class, much better than both standard curated bestsellers AND academic works.
I started reading this on AO3 shortly after the one with the Actual Cannibal, and the ultimate aftermath, which was the one part of this i really hated, but mostly because i was attached to a certain character.
I thought then, and i still do, that it was a misstep, fridge-stuffing someone for the sake of just developing MC. It rather undercut the sudden waking call he received just one chapter earlier, for the sake of culling a character who's outlived their purpose in relation(s?) to MC, and we haven't really been given time to process that, not counting the wait between chapters. Did the author just hate that character? It felt like they did, making MC repeat how he could not undo what happened, felt like they grew tired of writing for that character. I'm still hoping that event does get somewhat undone, regardless, albeit with consequences, perhaps by the hand of an other party just to show MC/s that the world doesn't revolve around his/their Narrative, at least not completely.
But that's just my opinion. I'm not writing this, La Mort de le jepsen or no.
The story is good though, very well crafted, from the characters to the worldbuilding, magic systems, game system, everything was well thought out and original in a way that literally no other work on royalroad can ever equal.
Especially not those particularly popular and prolific authors with questionable grasp of the language and really narrow vocabularies, who've been uploading near daily for half a decade, and who wrote more than half of all the top rated fictions, you know the ones. Full offense intended, I don't care, cos cthuluraejepsen is just that good and I love this story at least as much as i personally hate its author for hurting me with his writing. Which is a compliment of sorts.
This is a story where even the fucking GAME SYSTEM is original, and the way it's handled is just--ugh. And the character work . . . there are plenty of character defining moments and introspection on the part of most characters that I actually like to read, rather than just skip past due to the inanities of most inexperienced writers.
I can write more but I just realized I won't have the time to do this story justice. Ah well. I'm no Jun, Arthur, or Tiff so . . .
Anyway, story is good, its got substance and meat and I respect the author even though I hate him.
My profile pic is me flipping him the bird.
Really glad to see this on RR, read it on Archive of our own ages ago, definitely going to be re-reading it, some people wont like it, but I highly reccomend at least giving it a shot, in my own oppinion its one of the best storie out there.
Worth the candle is a name which can be mentioned in the conversation regarding the very best web-novels, ever.
If that doesn't make you sit up and take notice how about the fact that there's literally a sub-reddit dedicated to discussing each and every chapter as they're released.
This is seriously good stuff, comparable to The Wandering Inn & Mother of Learning in quality.
Plus there is 160 chapters of the stuff. So sit back and enjoy the ride, I know did!
I've been following this story since sometime last year (2019) and it's honestly pretty good. There's hardly any grammatical errors or typos the plot is entertaining and the world building is fairly consistent.
Despite all that, something has been eating at me the entire time I was reading this story. Nearly all the interactions between the characters feel one dimensional and monotonous.
I think this is because whenever any characters are having a conversation, all I ever read about is the words they say to each other but I find it hard to envision anything else about their interaction because almost nothing is mentioned about their facial expressions, body language and tones. Even on the rare occasion that anything like that is explored, so little is mentioned that it's almost pointless.
It makes conversations feel like it's just one guy talking to himself.
Conversations also sometimes feel like infodumps even when that might not be the author's intention, and it can get so bad that even parts that might've been meant to be entertaining start to drag.
All this also makes the characters hard to relate to because they are not fleshed out properly in my head. I'm not saying that there's not any attempts to flesh out the characters because I always read descriptions of what they look like and what they wear and what the other characters think of them, but I can't help but want to see what they see as they're talking to each other.
Conversation has many more dimensions than just the words spoken but almost all of them are missing.
If the author could deal with that issue, then this story would be a masterpiece.
This story is actually really good. I read dozens of chapters and had little complaints about the story itself. The grammar is superb. The writing style is great. The characters seem to move and make decisions that seem reasonable.
But there is just something about it that made it start to drift away from me. The pacing was fantastic at first, but there seemed to be no progression, even though they did lots of things. Very little seemed to change.
Battle, battle, battle, yet the MC didn't appear to get stronger. Yet at the same time, he did. It's a confusing paradox as I'm reading it and typing this out, but I can't help but feel that as much as he battled and had painful things done that the more things changed, the more they stayed the same.
But I have to say, the reason I give the story a 3.5 stars for style is the author for some reason puts so many paranthesis all over almost every single chapter. This massively detracts from the story and distracts me. If it wasn't important enough for the author to put it in the story, then why is it thrust into our faces as we try to read? The author would have multiple paragraphs of unecessary thoughts in the middle of an important conversation. There are even paranthesis within paranthesis! I truly do not understand the authors obsession with them. If the story desperately needs them, then write them into the story. The author is more than capable. Just unwilling.
Overall, it's a great story. It just lost the spark for me. Great world-building and everything else. Just those damn paranthesis and nothing changing while everything changes.